Chicago's All-Decade All-Stars

by Bobby Stompy on August 7 at 11:31AM


Shanoff had some pretty interesting fodder in one of his early morning blog posts on Thursday:
Great little gimmick by Sporting News this week: Pick the top player of the decade in all the major sports. OK, I'll bite: It led today's SN column.

But I'm unhappy with their choices, and don't mind saying so....

...CFB: Leinart vs. Tebow. I'll take Vince Young, for now. (At least until Tebow finishes this season and we see where he stands.)

NBA: Kobe vs. Duncan. I'll take LeBron, who is not only the best player in the league -- for about the last 4 years -- but he has redefined excellence and ability.

College hoops: Hansbrough vs. Jason Williams. Really? Because I'll take Carmelo over either -- yes, Melo only played 1 year, but pound-for-pound (or minute-for-minute), Melo was the best.

(And I even feebly attempt to argue that Joakim Noah is more worthy than Jason Williams. Let's just count the rings on the fingers.)

NFL: Brady vs. (Peyton) Manning. Yeah, these are the top two, but it seems hard not to at least give Ben Roethlisberger the "nice just to be nominated" nod in a 3rd spot.

MLB seemed right -- Pujols vs. A-Rod -- but I'd love to get a SABRmatrician's evaluation of whether there was a glaring omission here, even as a 3rd candidate. Pujols obviously wins.

(I still go with Pujols, but the Commenter below is dead on: Bonds is in the discussion.)
For the record, my money's on Leinart (you have to factor in chicks, too), Duncan, Hansbrough, Brady, and Pujols. Also, how crazy is it that the "(Peyton)" had to be written in parenthesis like that? What I'm saying is: fear Eli.

Also, commenter ChiAdam had some pretty scathing -- and convincing -- anti-LeBron sentiment:
What is Baby James transcending? He's living in the house Jordan built. James stole his number, took MJ's chalk routine and made it into a Hollywood production that ends with James posing like Jesus, and even rode MJ's commercial coattails. Jordan had Mars and the Looney Tunes. James has the stupid James family commercials and a puppet (which was stolen from Penny). So, what exactly is Queen James transcending?

...Kobe has four rings. I would take Bryant over James. And another thing that bothers me: you would NEVER see Jordan or Bryant or Bird or Magic or Duncan wearing a "Check my Stats" or "MVP" shirt. They cared about rings. James obviously cares about his stats and individual awards. All the truly great players are fueled by one thing only: championships. James cares about getting on Sportscenter.
Ouch.

Anyway, my biggest factor in all this is longevity. Unless you had some Terrell Davis super human stretch, consistency over time matters. Obviously this is harder to do in the college ranks, but it should factor in when it comes to the pro game. After all, we're taking a ten year stretch and using those numbers/accomplishments to say what athlete defined the decade.
So, yeah, interesting premise.

But what if we had to make it Chicago-specific? Not to step all over TTCS or anything*, but here are some ideas.

* - It's only seven, not ten. You can't sue!

MLB: Cubs

Well, the Cubs are easy.

sosahelmet.jpg
Done and done, haha.

NHL: 'Hawks

My knowledge here is a bit limited. But can I just throw a Havlat, Kane, Toews, or Amonte grenade and run away with my head covered? Is there some transcendent goalie stretch that I'm missing? Twist my arm and I'll say Toews.

toewssuit.jpg(guitar intro to "Johnny B. Goode" goes here)
College Hoops

I usually include the "Chicago" scope of sports colleges to include Illinois, Northern Illinois, Southern Illinois, Western Illinois, Eastern Illinois, Bradley, Illinois State, UIC, DePaul, Loyola, Northwestern, Iowa, Purdue, Notre Dame... with extreme, extreme stretches of Indiana, Wisconsin, Michigan, and MSU. That said, we've got a broad group to choose from.

I'm going to give it to Deron Williams. There are a lot of factors in play here...

- He PG'd the Illini to the NCAA finals... were Sean May ate them
- Had to deal with all of the Duh-RON mispronunciations of his first name... never underestimate what that does to a man's psyche
- Had to deal with James Augustine before Augustine become proficient the year after Williams left for the NBA

augustqueen.jpgThis summed up a lot of that Illini season

- Had to deal with people thinking Dee Brown was the better player... seriously, Brown was First Team All America in 2005 while Williams had to settle for second
- This is a picture of his closest competition
harangody.JPGFuture Minnesota Twins first basemen?!?!?

- Williams has sustained success in the NBA (which really shouldn't count at all, but it is pretty cool, no?)
- Orchestrated some of the most beautiful team basketball I've ever seen this side of the Jordan Dynasty

williamsgross.jpgYou've come so far...

College Football

This one's tough. Ohio State's too far east to claim Troy Smith's Heisman. Fat Ron Dayne's happened in 1999. So really, even though we have a large stable of teams, the decade provided no Heisman winners (damn you, SEC and Big 12!).

There were some great individual seasons (Shonn Greene, Javon Ringer), some great longevity and accumulation (Chad Henne comes to mind but he, you know, kinda sucked), and some pretty solid teams. But honestly, there is not a clear cut choice.

That's why my selection pains me so much.

brady_quinn_shirtless_cellphone.jpgI can be your hero, baby!

His teams were overrated, he might not ever be good in the NFL, and Charlie Weis is unfahtomably fat, but Brady Quinn absolutely killed it in college. Multiple BCS bowl births, four year starter, fat stats. He had it all. And I am sorry.


NFL: Bears


Gotta go with the boring choice in Brian Urlacher.

Yes, you're white, bitter, and hate everyone. Congratulations.

urlacherpouty.jpgLike Lance Briggs, but 90% less cool!

Well, it's the Bears, so all offensive skill positions are automatically eliminated. From there, you've got Olin Kretuz as your only offensive candidate before you look at the other side of the ball. It sort of stops and ends with No. 54.

Urlacher has been the anchor of a regularly above-average to excellent defense since 2000 -- the start of the decade. He's accumulated massive amounts of accolades, which include...

- 2000 Rookie of the Year
- 2005 Defensive Player of the Year
- 4 All Pros
- 6 Pro Bowls
- Vitamin water contract
- Led the Bears to the Super Bowl... where Rex Grossman ate them

So yeah. Meh.

Players I like much, much more and wish I could have given this to? Lance Briggs (who I probably would have had no qualms with except he played on the team three less years), Devin Hester (too boom/bust), Kyle Orton (too drunk).

This is where it gets a little. bit. interesting.

NBA: Bulls

Choosing to ignore Bulls basketball from 2000-2003 (trust me, it's for the best), it's still too short-sighted to say Rose. It just is. As weird as it may sound, this honor probably has to go to Ben Gordon. Between him, Deng, and Hinrich (the phantom core of the future that really ended up being a long flash in the pan) no one got it done like BG. He came to a team that had a different leading scorer every year and actually provided some stability... and half the time he was coming off the bench. We could sing his praises all day, but he's gone, that's pretty damn depressing.

bengone.jpgRIP
MLB: White Sox

It's really a four horse race between Jermaine Dye, Mark Buehrle, Paul Konerko, and Gordon Beckham (just kidding... but seriously).

My love for Jermaine Dye really can't be qualified (I love him more than my family). Well, I guess it can. So it's really impossible for me to write about him with any semblance of objectivity. While I'll resist giving him this award, it's important to remember that his 2006 season was probably the most impressive non-Esteban Loaiza season for any Chicago White Sox. Seriously, Dye mashed children. Longevity is what kills him, though. He's only been on the team since '05, which just isn't enough.

Beckham's pace so far -- and hair so far -- has been beyond stellar, so we'll check back with him for the 2010-2019 stretch. Everybody thought naming the 'aughts' was hard, but good luck naming that decade. Seriously, what the hell do we call that? The tens? The teens? The sucks? Headache waiting to happen.

Paulie vs. MB56

Without either of these two guys, there is no World Series, division title, White Sox baseball, really. You talk about heart and soul? I mean, which one's which? Paul's been on the team since '99. Buehrle, 2000. So they've both covered longevity.

Paul probably loses points in the consistency department. He also loses points in the speed department. To say that Paul is even in the speed department is an insult to the speed department. With Paul, there is no speed department... only ashes.

Buehrle takes it because of four all-star selections to Paul's three. The incredible post-season stretch in 2005 where he started Game 2 of the world Series and went on to close Game 3. You've also go the complete game in the ALCS, leading the AL in innings pitched twice in the decade, and -- not to get too caught up in instant history or over-focused on singular accomplishments -- the no-hitter and the perfect game. Plus, Paul still likes Metallica.

Offensively, Paul Konerko has carried the Sox on his back for a long, long time, but no one on the White Sox brings his 'A' game more often than Mark Buehrle.

markbeerle.jpgMark Beer-le





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college hoops

if your gonna extend it as far as including iowa and purdue, you gotta go with dwade

Great choice, but are we comfortable claiming Marquette?

"My love for Jermaine Dye really can't be qualified (I love him more than my family)."

Quote of the decade.


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