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May 2008 ArchiveBad hire, Paxby Ricky O'Donnell on May 30 at 12:05AM
![]() Hollinger presents three problems with hiring Collins: a) his pace is way too slow, b) he’s bad at handling youth, and c) his style is dangerously close to Skiles’, which the players may soon tune out. OK, so, where to begin? Let’s start off with where I disagree: I think Collins will do a swell job handling young players. Skiles was crazy. A solid coach, but insane. One of those “do all the little things right or you’ll be benched immediately while multiple veins pop out of my hairless head” type of guys. And that’s fine when it’s applied to some guys. But it’s not fine for others. Like Tyrus Thomas, who Skiles repeatedly threw under the bus in the media and surely rode harder than any other Bulls player. Tyrus could totally kick ass in one game, and then the next night miss one defensive rotation and Skiles would yank him. You can’t do that. Not when you invested the #2 overall pick in a guy over Brandon Roy and Rudy Gay. Not when he was so effective for certain stretches. It wasn’t just Tyrus: Skiles couldn’t coach anyone who didn’t share his same blue collar personality. And it hurt the Bulls roster because Pax wouldn’t go get any guys that were like that (with the exception of Tyrus. Why did they draft him again?) If a player was from Kansas or Duke, sure, he may flourish. Unfortunately, the NBA isn’t full of try-hard, do-gooders. It’s got a lot of dudes who Basketball, you know, is a game where stars win. Sometimes it can’t be all “play defense or don’t play”. That’s what Skiles was like (who, again, was still a good coach), and that’s what Hollinger fears Collins will be like. I disagree. Skiles was a complete nutcase, I don’t think Collins will be nearly as intense. Maybe some of it’s because he’s older, and he’s more established. But I think Collins will aim to teach, not to say “do it this way or don’t do it at all”. After all, Collins wasn’t going to take the job before the Bulls won the lottery. He knows they are taking one of two 19-year olds, so he knows what he’s getting himself into. I actually think Collins will do nice job with the young guys. The deal breaker is his slow pace. The Bulls have to score more if they’ll be good. Doug Collins? Yeah, that’s not so much his game: Collins might be the most extreme slow-pace coach in the past quarter century. I'm amazed nobody has brought this up yet -- the guy makes Jeff Van Gundy look like Paul Westhead. Not good. I feel like most know my basketball philosophies already after all the D’Antoni stuff I did, but, basically, you have to score. The Bulls are built to run, that’s what they should do. It won’t happen with Collins. Again, the Bulls are going to grind out games. That isn’t how it should be. That’s not how the roster is built. This is made particularly ‘not good’ when you consider that Derrick Rose would be downright amazing in an uptempo system. It’s not like the Bulls have a low post scorer anyways (are you nervous yet? We both know where this is going). Get the ball, push it and score. That’s how the Bulls should play. Sure defensive is important. Of course it is. But so is offense. People forget that. Whenever I read about the scene that took place between Reinsdorf and D’Antoni, I cringe. Basically, it was this: D’Antoni: Great talk, I’d love to be the next head coach of the Bulls. JR: Just remember, you’ll have to play defense. That’s how I won six titles. D’Antoni: Screw you, I’m taking the Knicks money. First to JR’s defense. You won with defense? No. You won with the best athlete the world has ever produced. That’s why you won. Cause MJ wouldn’t let you lose. Don’t forget that you also had the best offensive system in the history of basketball. You know, that little thing Tex Winter designed? Yeah, the triangle. So sure, defense was big part. But so was offense. The audacity of Reinsdorf. Telling the league’s best coach without a title and certainly it’s most exciting that if he wants the honor of coaching the Bulls, he better be ready to stress defense. What a moron. So here comes another stickler of a coach, exactly the type of guy that 20-year old kids who just got rich out of nowhere don’t want to listen to. That’s doesn’t mean the kids are right, of course. But if you are going to win, you may as well get your best players to like you. Like I said above, Collins will be more understanding than Skiles. But grinding out offensive possessions? Why!? You have Derrick Rose, Tyrus Thomas, Luol Deng and Ben Gordon. Noah is athletic too. They’re all athletic. Go ahead, trade Deng and/or Gordon for a legit scorer. That’s what you do. Run. Score. But no. Once again, I fear the Bulls screwed this up. So now the question becomes: how does this hiring effect the draft pick. I hate to say it, but I think it gives an advantage to Beasley. If the Bulls aren’t going to run, they got to score somehow. Beasley can do that. Rose, eh, not so much. I hate Paxson already, if he takes Beasley, that would be the last straw. Seriously. It all goes back to the moronic organization philosophy of “we won six titles this way”. Yeah, you also catered to your best player a little. You know, the best athlete ever. He could score at any time, in any situation that he wanted to. You don’t have that now. Instead, you have Kirk Hinrich. Good luck with that one, Doug. *** Now, of course, there is a chance Collins does exactly what he did here 20 years ago: take the Bulls from point C to point B. Like I said in the previous post, they are definitely at point C right now. If Collins does that, and another guy comes in and takes them all the way- great. The headline of this post is probably a little too strong, but all I wanted from my Bulls was an exciting form of basketball (and Rose). That isn't going to happen with Collins. Bulls hire Doug Collinsby Ricky O'Donnell on May 29 at 1:40PM
Um…okay?I’m not too sure what to think here. I’m definitely surprised though. I really thought the job would go to one of the 10,000 unproven assistants Paxson has interviewed since D’Antoni took the Knicks offer. The best part of the...
Joey Dorsey: "The Bulls are taking Beasley"by Ricky O'Donnell on May 28 at 5:49PM
Via the other Full Court Press:"Chicago's got a lot of pressure on them because Derrick's from Chicago," Memphis forward Joey Dorsey said. "But they're going to take Beasley. I've got the inside. They're going to get Beasley."A lot of people...
Orlando Cabrera might be a moronby Ricky O'Donnell on May 28 at 3:40PM
I didn’t like the Orland Cabrera-Jon Garland swap in the first place. If the Sox were going to try to win this season when everyone (including me, oops) thought they should be rebuilding, then why trade arguably your best starting...
Sox need a second basemanby Friends of the Program on May 26 at 12:55AM
I'd like to start this out with a big QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ!!! That felt good. First, read my White Sox column at Beachwood, then let TTCS' Phil Barnes tell you why the White Sox need to trade for a top-of-the-order hitting second...
Woogie Sundaysby Friends of the Program on May 25 at 1:19AM
Warning: The views of Woogie are not the views of TUP. He is an unaffiliated party, only meant to give you something to do on Sundays without football. When not watching videos of kids getting hurt, Woogie hurts kids himself....
Saturday's Are For Rock: Death Cab for Cutieby Ricky O'Donnell on May 24 at 2:11AM
I think I forgot Death Cab existed for like two years. Then I stumbled across the video for the first single off their new album, and I remembered how much I loved them. I’ve been listening to the last three...
derrickrosederrickrosederrickroseby Ricky O'Donnell on May 23 at 1:05AM
More on him later (and by later, I mean "hopefully for the next 15 years"), but right now: how about those White Sox? They're rolling. I feel like I should save most of my Sox thoughts for the Beachwood column...
Bulls opinions from all overby Ricky O'Donnell on May 22 at 3:15AM
I think you’ll notice a little trend here…LocalSun-Times (Mariotti): Rose(Paxson) must make a public-relations move, a ticket-selling move. He must make a pick for the fans, who have suffered 511 losses in 810 games since the dynasty dissolved and watched...
Derrick Rose will save the Bullsby Ricky O'Donnell on May 21 at 3:57AM
I wonder who Phillips thinks the Bulls should take...I feel dirty. This whole thing is just completely filthy. It’s like blatantly cheating on a test that all your friends studied hours for, and you get an A while they all...
The Bulls Pwn the NBA Lotteryby Bobby Stompy on May 21 at 12:25AM
BobbyStompy here now; expect a Rickhouse freak out very soon...Say it with me, everybody: the Chicago Bulls are your 2008 NBA Lottery Champions!Do you think we can get that inserted into the pre-game introductions next season?With a 1.7 percent chance...
The Bulls get ready for the NBA Lotteryby Ricky O'Donnell on May 20 at 2:54AM
Yeah, another Bulls post. Deal with it. I drained all my Sox thoughts yesterday, and the Bears are still too far away. This one will involve a little less swearing, though.I mentioned yesterday in the White Sox column that if...
New Beachwood White Sox column upby Ricky O'Donnell on May 19 at 2:46PM
And you can read it here. It was only a matter of time before Quentin got the spotlight. Other baseball notes - I don't know how everyone else feels about this, but I actually do root for the Cubs...
The return of Woogie Sundaysby Friends of the Program on May 18 at 4:10PM
It's Summer now, and I can't think of a better way to celebrate than to bring back Woogie Sundays. If you have any ideas for what else we can add for the weekends here, let's us know. Last time I...
Time to mix it upby Ricky O'Donnell on May 16 at 12:47AM
So. School’s over. Now onto some hardcore sports blogging action. I just couldn’t take that little break for Finals (should the F be capitalized? This is driving me crazy) before ripping the Bulls. I was trying to churn out some...
The Bulls are ridiculously incompetentby Ricky O'Donnell on May 13 at 1:45AM
It’s hard to bash two guys who have been as great to the Bulls organization as Jerry Reinsdorf and John Paxson have been over the course of their careers. Six titles, championship-clinching shots, and rebuilding from the Floyd-Cartwright mess is...
Sox column upby Ricky O'Donnell on May 12 at 2:22PM
You can read it here. I've got finals this week, so I'll be back on Thursday Bulls post tomorrow. This D'Antoni stuff is just bothering me too much. Stompy may throw up a post or two here (though he has...
Saturday's are for rapby Ricky O'Donnell on May 10 at 1:53PM
At least it is when Rob Skoglund Brian Scalabrine drops a beat as phat as this one. Or when Skeets does.Update: Rats. D'Antoni to the Knicks. ...
Thursday roundupby Ricky O'Donnell on May 8 at 3:16AM
I kind of don’t want to do this and I’m sure it’s not a very popular stance, but we really have to hold off a second before we crucify Cedric Benson. I’m sure Benson was a little drunk on that...
How Paxson and D'Antoni can make this workby Ricky O'Donnell on May 6 at 8:36AM
So it looks like Mike D’Antoni is going to be next coach of the Bulls, huh? Sweet. But now comes the biggest hurdle: Paxson has to turn this roster into something D’Antoni can use. Like we said on Friday, this...
New Beachwood column upby Ricky O'Donnell on May 5 at 2:30PM
and you should probably read it because it tells the greatest story of all-time. Just to refresh your memory..I left out so much good stuff too. Let's run down a quick checklist- Beau's friend told us he knew someone at...
The Bulls could get Mike D'Antoniby Ricky O'Donnell on May 2 at 3:27PM
Marc Stein better not be yankin’ my chain with this one. Mike D’Antoni looks like he’s on his way out of Phoenix and is reportedly targeting Chicago. If you would have asked me at any point since Skiles was fired...
This day in TUP historyby Ricky O'Donnell on May 1 at 7:42PM
We’re a day late, but that’s not the point. On April 30, 2007, Greg Olsen made this site famous. Actually that’s not true at all, but I’ll be convinced that without this post, the world may never know about the...
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